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If subscribers neglect or refuse to take their pa pers from the office to which they are directed, they are held responsible until they have settled their bill, ' and order their paper discontinued. ' . ' r , - 4. IfVubscribers remove to ; other : places without f lnlorming the publisher, and the faper is sent to the' o-rmer direction. they are held responsible. .. I t :; .. mi - I. . . A A n-A p.fniir tA taV. . paper or periodical from the office, or removing and leaving it uncalled for, is , " prima facie" evidence : of intentional fraud. , ' T - For ihe Recorder. Notes on the Mode of Baptism. NUMBER NINE. . . The baptism of the 4hree thousand on tbe day of Pentecost, next claims our attention. Acts 2: 38 41, &c. , , . . The order of tbe Commission b here strictly. - observed Si" ' - - ' .' -1. Peter preached. 2. "They that gladly received the word were baptized." 3. " They continued-steadfastly in the Apostles doctrine and fellowship, and breaking of bread and in zfnjr?l' . j That the Bubjects baptiied were believers, to the exclusion of infants, there can be no doubt. Some pretend ; to think there was not water at Jerusalem for the immersion of the three thous and. To make this objection ot use to Pedo baptisfs, they must yore that, there was not" water at Jerusalem sufficient for immersion. This they" never have, or can do, a mera con jecture, or supposition can never overthrow the testimony that has already beenadduced in favor of immersion. .. - '! . , - The temple contained ten lavers of brass, ; each of which - contained forty balhs sufficient : for immersion. There were also other baths in the templel The Jews had private baths for purifications by immersion.. " . . , -When we have " much water" at Eanon, we are told that - much water1 is not necessary for immersion. ' J. L. Chapman, on that pas sage, says, A ponrl twelve by. twenty is'amp ly 8ufficient.,' But when we get to Jerusalem, we are told that "much water5? is absolutely . iimcnaai 2.a a u n us uu uw w v v w m m - baptizing .7bria,&e., is evidence of im mprsinn. neither would thev admit immersion was performed at Jerusalem if it were known .. . .. , '""'." " " . r U ' 1 i tnat toe largest river in ine tnown wonu paoseu immediately by. Had we been told in plain Eng K,V V tb nrA nf find tbkttriA trirAA thnnsand were immersed,, Pedobaptists would deny that immersion should still be practiced. For! Rev., R. Watson, of the Methodist Society,! says,' i Even if: imwiernon vstrt in fact the original mode of baptizing in tbe name of Christy these reasons make it improbable that no accoiMnoda twiof the form should take place, &o.p-On It b also" affirmed that three thousand jcould not be immersed in one',day. ' . ; The twelve could do it. in eighly-thru min-i; was two hundred and fifty apiece. If the sev- ; enty assisiea, is was oxuy wirjr-cii; , Rev. J. M.J Pendleton informs us in hb VTbree Reasons,' p. 140, that he." saw the yenerable' -iteuoen xvoss, wneu iuoro vuu y jt f age, baptize "sciy nafperaons ini thirty-three minutes; ana mere was no maecen nasie.-- - Austin, the monk, sen by PoGregory in . to England in the year 597, consecrated the" ' liver owaie, uear x ur&, iu nMreu;r.o vaat g t tt IMUiani Q ;nis,conTerui uo wapnuu iu iie Jay.,, 'Theyii were immersed.- Three ReasonsV &c.,p. 14U.-. : a c- :. m s;o i . - . if K Romish monk could have ten thousand -i "H 11- j a w f ATiik ml Aft rivals ff7". ' apostles could have three thousand immersed in Baptists : immerse - taster man reuooapusis ' sprinkle ior reaopapusis, ure vapuo, . - date! Thev perform two acts. Baptists nut one! .t. .....t. o Tfcnv . KfliAVRd. 3..' He '? bar- zedboth men and women.1.' The onlyi diffi- 3 i eultv here b.' Luke who wrote the Acts of the ; ApOSUeS, iel fliH vvi i iu twu 01 U11S DapUSUl. Ua U3 Oi( . wu au , law word, b beyond a douot. vv nat worn cua 1 u;VA rmi ? ' We answer oaotes Had that wnm nnt mpn leiii uua. uis iwows nuiux uvw " ' . ' nT,t L.wa -iRW as louowa -..- www, men ana o&oiei." s . v.. . T.'i r-- Why was this word left out? Evidently be- ' f eansA fnfantji were bantizea. reaoDanusm ,was then tminown - , .' . . r . Probably thb happened in the days of Her- oa wno EieW; iae. laiauis. iuu .uuouj . happened thirty years afterwards ! 4 - n 4 Probably the writer thought it not necessary, cr trcrti whilo No; 'It is cere iapcrtart: "X-dt Xi ti isfemed that - c-UIrci jrcra tap-. tixed (that is; if they were) than thaiihey eoi. we mff luousana were xQiracuiousiy jea, ' it is said men5 women and aiifr'eat " lc f babies there I AndtstrMgertUli if any were- .baptized, and Lukepeft out thotrord I The same word b left out in Acts ;5 wd I4i i - - Baptism of the Ennuch Acts St 33, See bere b water, what doth hinder me . to be bap-tbed?- If thou believest with all thine heart thoaayestjfAnd they wentdown ooth into the watcr,iboth Phi'ip'and thoXaauch, and' he ,baptized him ,' and, when they were come up , Thb b a plain description i of the manner that Baptists now practice Re? RisWatson, a iMetbodbt, who b one of their most distinguish ?1 ediWriters, saysjlf Hhe Eunuch was actually immersed, Philip was- also immersed, foV noth ing b said of one, that is not said of the other. Watson on Biptbm; pMZ fpi r? Kev. ThW Lpe, A. M.'in a wrVon bap-? .tism asserts precisely the same thing. . j ) . . , . Reader, you can easily judge for yourself whether or not, f nothing b said of one that b not said of. the other. - It b ' said of- Philip, that he baptized him, that b the Eunuch, Weak must be thejeause lhat requires such pit ifd and shameful maneuvering. . ' We shall not be inclined to suspect the ve racity of. Watson arid Lape, if we suppose that they wrote in the jdecline of life, and that their spectacles slipped is they read thb .passage, and caused them to overlook the words, fl and he baptized him. v In order to do away the force of thb passage in favour of immersion, we are tdd that in, tafo, &e.,mean only at, by; or near to, and that " but of only ioieanj up, fromV &c. Vyyt K.r ; ; If this reasoning be true, it is very easy ac counting for the fact that Daniel was not des troyed by the lions, "into toe den of Hons" only means at, to, or near by the tden of lions. No wonder the three ; Hebrew children were not burned when cast into the fiery furnace, for it only means, they were cast at, by, or near to, &c. The great mystery, however, is, that the enemies of these Hebrews upon being east no, that b at, by, or near to, the. same fiery fur nace were burned., up J Can any Pedobaptist DP explain this jL ?, :-uS t " s It -is. also mystcrioos how.thQ swine that ran violently down into the lea when the 'devils entered into - them, were drowned upon dry land, for evidently they never entered into:the water, if into only means at, by, or neaVto I r If into only means, at by, or near, to, the" righteous will only get at, by, or near to, and' not into Heaven, , The wicked will only get at, by, or near to hell, and not into it. ; , , Baptists are represented by Pedobaptists as teaching that into means immersion. We have heard thb repeatedly from the pulpit. - Baptbts neither, believe, nor teach any such thing'. . Their argument is, that into takes them into tbe water, and baptizo or baptize puts them under." Why eo into the water, if not to im merse?, . .' ; P .. . ' . s We heard a Methodist mioter, say, If a boy was to ride my horse down into the creek, and let him drink, and come up out of the water,; would any person suppose - that my horse had been immersed ? With as much propriety we may ask, would any person suppose i hb - horse had been sprinkled ! tA ' f?'f ; Going into the water to drink and to be bap tized are Very different t things Put thej word baptize in : the place of; the ,;Word . drink, and people would believe an immersion had occur-' red. '- Thb same miribter, wen t down into the . rtvtr,' and baptbed certain persons.'' Did he sprinkle them ? fNo. He took them down into the water, and baptized, that is fmmersed them Philip no' doubt did the same thing, when he went down into the water with the Eunuch he" baptized that fe b im mersed .-: himAThe Ihpo-i; and prac of, this minbter are not jlq har- mony. ? His practice b a refutation of his theory i . It is affirmed that Paul was baptized ttandr nff tt, and therefore could not have been im mersed.' Thb b said because Paul was com-' manded to "arise and be bapQd. Iff-.f? If sprinkling had been the mode, we think it could haveC been done, as well in a sitting as a standing posture, tlf immersion was the mode (as it no doubt was) , it .was necessary for him1 to arise in order to 0 to the waterJ1 t f ' Hb baptism was to wash away hb sins "And now why tarriest thou, arise and be baptized, - Immersion b a fit representation of a fignra- tive washing away: of sins. . , :i . Paul tells ns in Ronr. .6 : 4 "J re buried with him by baptism.' - Nothing short of im Tnersion represents a burial. Paul was there- It b confidently asserted Jt)jf Pedobsptbt D.0 DJs, that the word used in the original, trans-3 lated arise means to arise and : remain, and . . does not justify . tho idea of hb moving, that therefore he could not have been immersed-. Thisv sophistry b completely demolished, by. Rev. J. M. Pendleton ia hb ' Three Reasons why If am a Baptist" p. 141: . ' ' ,: ' ' 3 yhe . participle anastas b sometimes ' so . translated, but in. numerous instances denotes .tbe leilnj cf aprocess by which a thing b done. It b said (Lrke 1 : 03, And Mary rr::3 (&i,a:tasa sias cori: with a feminine a tcrrabiilcni.iiti::; tzl ct;ulo the : lull country,- &o5 Did Mary stand up and go? . 'docs not anastasa here denote the beginning of, the process by whicVshe reached the hUI ooun-! wv s ia ajute is ; 10, toe prouigai sou jf tlul true (anastas) and , go Jto my .father ! &e.aod inSO, i b said tndVhe arosel' I (anastas) and 5 come to hit , father, h Did h stand up and go to hb fatherTiWas; not the ; Auatta . the oommenoement oihe; returning movement ? -He arose and returned to? his father.' - Now Luke wrote the t Act's of the A-i posdeW' Is it not reasonable', then, to believe thattfwhettMya arose , anastas;, ana, was baptized, be jneans by tnatfat the beginning of a process neoessary to n Dipusm 1 , tie eviaenuy arose tnat no might be immersed ; but noj rising up no anastas -was necessary, if water was to be poured or sprinkled on jhimi His immersion ed by anasfat, implied tha moyement Indi'oa f while 3pburingor sprinkling could imply no such ' movement.1 'In the' b9th Vers? ', of the same , ohapter, it is . said, And Potcr arose (anastas) and went with them that b, to Joppa. He did not stand up still and go; but he arose as the first thing to be done in getting to Joppa, jost as Saul arose as the first thing to be done in getting to a suitable place for immersion. (To be Continual.) ! f For the Recorder. Are the Practices of the; NethoClst Church ' RepuMlcan! j One of the singular, things in the bbtory of . our country b the existence and long continu ance of churches whose teachings are so opposed to the spirit of our government. The recent movements in the political world have aroused the attention of thinking men, to the principles advocated by the ministers of the various denom inations. The following article taken from tbe S. W. baptist, is a reply to a piece written by , the Methodist mioister iu Tuskeegee. We do believe that those who read it, will not com plain of its length, so ably b the subject dis cussed. A friend of Truth. We shall, therefore, confine our remarks to two very simple enquiries, j These are . ' First Is the Epbcopal feature of the Meth odist Church a legitimate subject of newspaper discussion? 4 1- v ' ! ;-' ; ?s Secondly -Isi Chur chr-pblity as an element in me iorauon 01 political CDaracier, 01 sum cient importance to merit the attention of the politician and Statesman? . And let it be distinctly premised here, that it is not the piety, nor even the! doctrines of the Methodist Church, that we are now to discuss. No Protestant recognizes tho seraphic piety and the evangelical doctrines of a Fen el on and a Bossuct in mitigation of the tyranny and crimes of the Roman Catholic hierarchy. Our remarks will be confined to' the isolated topic of epbeopacy. The most illustrious names of thb or any other age, never eonverted one error into a truth.- And he who expects to shield an error behind the prestige of great and good names, no matter, if .they are as numerous as the stars of heaven, has sadly mbtakenj the age in which he lives. VVhatever of charity we owe to men's persons, it' is certain we owe none to their errors... He who compromits a principle out of complaisance 10 any roan or set 01 men, is un worthy to'"ba trusted, cither ! by God or man. ': But to our first enquiry r ' x Is the Epbcopal feature of the Methodist Church a legitimate subject of newspaper dis cussion ? ' Now; we aver that; it b, as mucbso, indeed, its the ecclesiastical polity of any other denomination on:earthii-.lt is a transplant from a foreign to an American soil ; and is no more exempted from the ordeal, of Criticism and seri ous investigation than any j other article of for eign manufacture. .That its type is the. Epis copal Church of England,! ihe establbbed reli-, gion. of thai realm', we presume; its most devo ted friends 'will not question ( ' It fs not sacri lesre for an rAmerican 1 citben to,s question the 1 right of the clergy to ruleacbnslituency"'num- bering a million and a balfp But7 we will not auppose thot our Methodist brethren will claim thb .exemption rJand : weji need - not seriously argue it- , r - t .a.'j" . , AVe come now $o consider the second question proposed Is Church polity, 'as an element in the formation of political . character, of sufii- ciens imporiance io merit ine .aitenuon ot tne ' politician and Statesman ?r,VVe think that itb. Ever since the days of Constantino, Ecclesias tical power has been invoked by secular prin-? ees, as an essential element in tile government -of; their subjects.-- Itb at thb day recognized by every despot of Europe, not 'only as, an or ganic law of hb government, but as being essen- tial to enforce hb authority. U It cannot, be' de-' nied, that religion, whether pure andundefiled,: orperyeriea ana corruptea, is ine most power tul agency which has ever beenfcrought to bear1 upon humanhafacter. " Its unholy and corrupt-; ing alliance with every government in Europe" b a recognition i bfthe truth. Even the infidel Hobbes : defended reKgion 5 on the ground, that it was an ' essential auxiliary in - the hands of kings to rule their subjects. Like the devil and bis angeb, who lost not their power by the fall, religion looses not its power to being corrupted and perverted to the basest of. purposes. .The "most virulent, merciles3,"aud vindictive perse cutions which have' ever darkened the pages of : Church hbtory, have emanated from a corrupt Christianity: The ' reason of thb is obvious. - Religion, bassd as it is, upon the highest autho rity in the universe appeab to and davelopes ; the strongest principles . and passions of the human soul .and these beoome correspondingly, potent for good or for evil, according,- to 1 the , power that directs them.-i When you appeal to i: j:' :. i .i. - "highest principles and motives that can operate upon moral agents. Thb we say b both objeo- V Now, we boldly and fearlessly take the ground that the Episcopacy of Rlethochsai b anti- Democratic, and anti-Republican that ia so fir as iis operation b unrestricted by cioJlj ring ! agencies. It is essentially and neoessarilT in dl it S J ' f , feet antagonism with our free institutions , Wa. are aware, that in taking thb ground, we are ! subjecting ourselves to muoh unmerited censure, the censure of those who eannotor more rop, erly will not, discrimlnale otwoen'personi knd,, principles. HVe aro aware there are those who will regard us as attackin not a iolltary Hn-; , oiple in the system of u the largest denomina tion of Chrbtians inl'the United States, but as ; denouncing the entire membership of that 1 denomination, aa antiDemocratioj But thb has : no terror! ,to nst I , Wf shall fearlessly speak what we. believe to be the truth, be the conse quences' whi thev may, x. .We hope to do so, however, In the spirit of; the Gospcl . "'As words' are theYitgus of; ideas, the roost, obvious method we' can pursue In thb lnesU-, gation b,4 in the 'first place; to 'aqoertain ith'e -meaning of terms Pursuing; thblcoarse,1 we turn to our great nationnl standard. Webster's Dictionary, and find the following definitions of .the terms 'involved In thb dboussion? 1 V DKMOCBAcfnrGovernraetit by the1 peo ple ; a form of government in which the supreme ower b lodged in the hands of the people col ectively, or, in which the people exercbe the" powers of legblatio.V v t it -; v Republic,! A oommoawealth ; a state 'in whioh the exercbe of the sovereign power b lodged in the hands of representatives elected by Ihe p wjpe, &o. i; , v 4, jr, : Wi ! ; ' Episcopacy, . literally, oversight,' or careful inspection j applied particularly ; to the government of the Church 07 bishops or pre lates. . 14 Episcopal, a, Belonging to, or Tested in bishops or prelates ; 2. governed by bishops.'? ' Now, when we assert tljat the Episoopal fea-- tureof the Methodist organization is anti-Dem-ooratio and anti-Republican, we are' but assert ing what every school boy may know in five minutes by turning to . his dictionarythat a form, of government in which ..the supreme Eower b lodged in the hands of bishops or pre ites, the clergy, is in manifest antagonism with that form of government in which. such power b lodged in tbe hands of the people, or of re presentatives elected by the people. It were absurd to say that two such principles; ever can harmonize. If the bill of rights set forth in the preamble of all our civil constitutions, State and national, asserts a truth,- that " all power ts inherent in the people," then we' maintain that a government in which the people have no jojee, practically sets that truth at defiance. 1 ". Who compose the, annual, and quadrennial Conferences of tbe , Methodist Episcopal Church ? Let the Discipline answer : Q 3. Who shall attend the y early conferences ? Ant. All traveling, preachers in full connqtion, and tupse wuo are to oe reoeivea in iuu connection. , p. 23. A&n iUi Quests Who shall compose the General Conference,' and what are the reg ulations and powers belonging to it ? Ans. 1. " ,The General Conference shall be composed of one member for every twenty-one members of each annual Conference, to be appointed either by seniority or choice, at the discretion of such annual Conference: yet so that such represen tatives shall have traveled at least four full cal endar years from the time that they were received on trial by an annual Conference, and in full connection at the time of holding the Confer ; ence," p. 20. And on page 21,-fu defining tbe.limitations an restrictions of the'f owers of . a General Conference, the following items occur: " 3.1 They shall not change or altar any part or rule'of our government, 10 as to do away episco' pacy or destroy the plan of ouritmerant general superintendenoy. 4, They shall not revoke or change the: general. rules of the United Socie- tiv?s. 5. They shall not do away the privileges of our ministers or. preachers of trial by a com mittee, and of an appeal, neither shall they do away the privileges , of . our, members of trial before the society, or by V committeeJi and of an 'appeal.,,J ' -;v--r":;'. ;' f ' ' N ow, observe first, that the annua! Conference b composed, tt-ojfficM, of the clergy under ap pointment of the bbh ops in that Conference. Even local preachers, no matter what their piety and talents may be, have no Voice in its counseb. i Observe, secondly, that the basb of represents- . tion in a General. Conference, b not the mem bership of the Church, but the aforesaid clergy in each State. .. In neither an annual or general conferenoci. b the voice of a layman or his rep- resentative ever heard, unless it be by petition : allow bb subjects. ) 0 bserva, thirdly, that thb dbtinct feature of the Methodist ehurch is never to be changed. The General Conference must 4 not " da away Bi$)j)Wv.,,i5 It b recognbed as an essential, organie law of the system, to do'J away with which, would' dissolve ; the whole Jabrio.:, i That b to. sayv the recognition or the rights of the people, the. private members, to a representation in the annual and general; Con ferences, would be the death knell of Methodist ;Enbcopacy r.'.The fathers of thb Church have taken the paioa to'throw around thb 1 special feature of M ethodbm' the sanctity and power of an irrevocable"' decree I ! it Any eflFort to change4 it, meets with a stern' rebukesuch as was administered by the General Conference in 1828, at which' a'larg and respectable bodyy of mmisters were expelled from the body, who: subsequently, formed the Methodbt Protestant Church of 4 the .United States. ? Call yon thb ' ; Republican? Democracy i. Artnumerous- andl respectable body of ministers ana laymen, irom different parts of the United States, petition the" General Conference of the Methodist , Epbco pal Church so to modify its basis of representa-; 'tion as to permit the voice of its laymen to be1 beard in its councib, b rebuked and denounbed as schbmatical and heretical,' and a solemn act of exclusion is pronounced against them And yet there b'nothing in Methodbt : Episcopacy but cwhat harmonbes most i beautifully: with American Demooracy ! ; And- when we quote the, very languaze of the illustrious founder of i0ivjeiooaismt John es8yi r are. not rxe- m r . I Tw m .1 IL tT . . . pubuoans,'and never intend to beT,--and when we attempt to point out the features of Metho-, dbt polity which antogonbe with the genius of our free institutions, why we have a1 wonder--fully creative imagination. 'De Quiaeeys Opi um Eater never saw such horhd images as come trooping .' 1 . before hb fancy.-: A Htili medical treatment b tha proper remedy far Each a dis- . temper ! All M poetry" Bro. Hamill. It would t tax u.t' 3." nest inventive cf the poetsnay, i m& oore inventive than have proceed an 8f . Iliad op a M Paradbe Lost, wet opins $ u5uyTer-ioe aemooraoy 01. iuemwuw .upiaco- -Tr i rvf T'-'";-7 i Qay. fynonvmous with trovernment bv the oeo; t , ple--thata representation basedupon the clergy , Chnrchthat a lesrislati - ; . -a . I voice' of the people u never beard," or if heard, , Is only heeded as a'raattep of gracel ii equiva I. cial. But in neither of these departments ra , i. ' ' it. ':. vua pnvow memoera oi ine ivieiooaisi episco pal Church representedv - They have no, power either to make, expound 'or execute the law. Evon if . they pronounce the solemn act of jex olusion against a member it b subjeot to appeal, and may be reversed by the bishop or bishops : and w the word of abbhop b the" end of; all strife. 'And that we may iior be4eonsidered uncharitable im thb! remark, we make the fol- uncharitable in; thb; remark, we make the fol lowing extract from the late Bishop BascomVs " Declaration of thei Rights, of Man." Let every Methodist read ana ponder, it well; If he will not hear the word of a bishop, (written to-be-sure before he became a bbhop. yet not ine less autooritative who .American readers on that acsount,) be surely will not be persuaded j by an humble Baptist editor. ' But to the ex-1 tract: r- - ? - . j Aat.1 6. A cbvernment unitine leeislative. fudi- cial, and executive powers in the bauds of the same men, is an absurdity in theory, and in practice, ty-' ranny. The executive power in every government, $A ub0;di?a.tS tel.uA the, ju- aiciai inucpeoacni oi oovn. vnenever, inereiort ii hap,.V Ue dm dep.rtm.rn. of go,.- ment are in the hands or the same body of men,1 and these men not the representatives of the people first makinz the laws, then execntins them, and finally the sole judges of their own acts, there b no to be ruined at any time.- In a government, ci vil or uuwijr, w jjcwjiw re YUfcuawj ensiaYeu.aua imoie ecclesiastical, where ths eame men are legislators, nuuiiuioiruiurs, aim juares, in reiaiioa 10 au ine lawa, and every possible application of them,' the ieopie, whether well or UHreaied, are in fact slaves; for tbe only remedy aeainst such a deir ism is re volt. Ko constitution can be presumed a rood one, embodying the - principles of correct 1 government? wntch does not ' soracientiy guard ' against ' ihe chances and possibility of. . maladministration. All absolute governments, owe their: character to the manner in which they are administered, where as, in a representative government, with proper cnecas anu Daiances, n is loe mierest, even oi me , vicious, to promote the eei.eral welfare, byeonform- ing. to lh lawa. The greater the equality estab- lisnea among men oy governments, .me more virtue and happiness will prevail : for where the voluntary consent of the governed is the basis of government, interest and duty combine to promote the "common weal." . ,,v. n-f , i i Finally r Methodbt Epbeopacy deprives the membership . of that church of the right of choosinz their own pastors a ri?ht as dear to the' ; Lord's '"freed men' as any; with which' iney are mvescea in. toe ixow testament. T ine ehurohes sometimes petition the bishop for some particular person of- their choice, but how oiten are their wishes disregarded. We recollect ume year or two since, of reading in one of the rcg nlar journals of the M. E. Church.' some sen ous : articles ; against the policy of yielding to tbb, the most bumble method of expressing a ! t-i.L il.'. i ' wisa,4o woicu loegrouna was sacen, ii we re member -correctlv. that if the thini? was not stopped, it would, virtually ;' do away with Episcopacy' And. yet we are called upon to believe, nay. we are considered verv, uncharita-" ble and bigoted if a we will not believe that a church organbation, in which tbe right of the laity to "Choose : their own pastors those who are to break to theni the bread of eternal life, and who are to ' be supported by their money, and assbted by their prayers and sympathies b absolutely denied, b nevertheless, quite con-" sbtent with American Democracy I xU,rj. i t . But says Bro. Hamill ' John VVesley, the Methodbt, Thomas Chalmers, the Presbyterian, and Robert Hall, the Baptist, were good sub jects of the"; English Monarchy." ' True,' they were They were mindful of the Divine injunc tion,' - V fear ; God and honor the King. But b not Bro ' H. aware'that the form of Churoh government Tecognbed by BJall,;was as pure a Democracy as that recognised by Baptist Chur ches, even in the United States ind that it has . been mainly through the agencies of such men aS;Robert Hall, and the Independents of .Eng land, that the act of non-conformity was extort- ed'from the British crown the right to worship God accora'ihir; to? the " dictates of one's own Conscience ? ' And let1 it never be forgotten tnas m our siruggie ior independence, me joap tists and Independents of Great Britain were ) universally on our side. Dr. Rippon, pastor of ia Baptist Church in London, writing to Dr. Baldwin; pastor of a Baptist Ubureh m Boston,'7 during the: revolutionary; war, sayg to him, iWfhen the. Kings' armies prevail, there b the cry of mourning, bmentation and woe amongst us ; but when, the - American .army prevails, " there b the shout of king in bur camps.' Rob-, ert Hall the father of tbe dbtingubhed orator, '. and one of the most eloquent Baptist minbters of hb age, was an open and avowed friend of ' the colonies." The - following anecdote of him rand Dr. Ryland, is worth rebting t is? s 4 j,' s .One evening- our conversation turned on the subject of the war with America, previously to the i ' acknowledgment of the independence of the Dniled IStates. " 1&. Hall said " Sir, that war was very . unpdpular, and considered to be very unrighteous by men of true liberty principles. My father, sir; warmly advocated the American cause. When I was a little boy, he took me to the school' of Mr.'Ryland at Northampton, the father of Dr. Ryland, of Bristol ; thb Mr. Ryland was very eccenlric,and a violent par 4 tizan of the Americans ; it was in the hottest period of the war, sir, and many persons .were very indignant at the conduct ofjtheEngiish. government. ": That war, sir, waa considered as crusade against ? ihe "liberty of the subject and the rights of man. The J first night we arrived at Northampton from Arnsby, sir, the two old gentlemen (tar Cither and Mr. By. land) talked over American politics until they both became heated on the same side of the question! At ' length, "Mr. Eyland burst forth in this manner : "Bro." Hall, I wilt 'tell 'you "what I-would do if I were General T7ashington. - WeIV rsail -xzj father; what won I J pa do F.r ; "Why, brct'-er Half, if I were GeneralATashiaton, I would summon all ths . American cdeers : they sLould form a circle around "me, .and; I would address tLerv and we would libation . ia our own tiood,- and I .WOUjJ CziX one cf Ilea t trlzz a lancet axd . U A. . -by one. into this unnch-bowl r pow-oowj; ana ce anouiAfcleed ts til cat first to bftx my ana f aid wten tha panchwl rJ -'-wiaaiengajcemjnxoycirtoa9 wtaoUitri and would iwurb Ufi .,. ... V'th Jorever and ever that we would never :vr" - t - . - m we must conclude. Bro. H amill c:eni to. consider that it w quite democratic that the ower of the bishops and clergy over churches, yucgr, - Aaprivuege ot locating a Col lege, or of beinsE a Trustee of it whsn iftaiA,! has about as much:"t( do ' irith the Enbeotfal goterntiipnt of jotxt ohurch,'as the appointbent vi a Bervani io sunniv vour Annual Cnnrrnft with water.The ilethbdist E. Church was no more organixed to erect colleges than any other .f6 education in that, as ia all other denominations, is an n-aJ in Hi Other denominations: b an tmi- and enters not Intolts brganio featurea. ti Let us not be mbunderstood or mbrepresen ted. Tiie questbn b not whether Bro. JEIanUl" or ourself could control the rotes of such men as he namej in hb communication : thb b an argumentum ad hominein, a mode of argument " usually resorted to for the want of a better s but 1 ,tne question is, whether a civil government or. ganuea upon the principles of Methodist Enb- r copacy, could be called with nrOnrietv: a demi ocratie republican government ?; We say it could' not a" How far we have proved thb, is left to the, oandid reader r- ' - - M t0. the artr0'lo to Wch Br0 . H I -rtjj , .i. . , ; . . . V jtwucr w ub puousnea h -does not follow that editon are ; considered . as endorsing all the sentiments contained in ever article copied : into their oaner. ; Nor ia it in- cumoent OU them to Sift and Cliticbe each ar- gument such selections may contain. So far as the article in question,' favors an assault upon Methodbt Episcopaoy at 'the ballot-box, we repudiate it ; for in voting, we never enquire is to what church a man belongs ; -but whether he is honest and capable and jwhetherhb tiewa upon-: important political questions correspond with our own.?. : With, respect, however, to the position whioh is the leading idea contained in the article, which .we .have above discussed, We v belbve, it to be true, and; can maintain iu ! . ...". For the Recorder. Death will bo swallowed np in victoty,when h we hear tbe welcome'plauditi I aceept you, O my peopie i xe are they that believe In oy name, j 1 Ye are th ty ' thai renounce y ourselves , and are, complete in me. ' i, see no spot or Uembh in yon V, for ye are washed b my Wood, 4 and clothed, wfth oy rightcousneM, v .Renewed by my Spirit, ye.i have glorifiedi me on eartha" and have been faithful unto death. Come re- wear the crown which fadeth not away j and eh- J J "w.vuiv ivictw - uvis J uu 13 OOC VulS cheering to the Christian, b there a; loul so . deaf to. the 1 call of sovereign mercy, as to still , perabt?..; Yes, .th'reBpb'nse ; rerechoes : again (and furnbhes the reply.,, Sin, that enoroous; jthef.-whicb has struck empires from their root. and swept ages and generations into : oblivion, r shall lie. by in perpetual; nselessneis. Sin will then be done awsy.rAU to come is perfect bo Eness and consummate bsppinessj the tern cf whose countenance b eternity. ' J t ' ' i:0 Eternity i'.How are our strongeBt thought! lost and overwhelmed in thee ! , Who con est landmarks, to limit thy dimension! ; ,or find plumbers to fathom thy depths v; Arithneti c tans have figures to compute all the progress ions ofv timo. . Astronomers ' have ' Instruments ' a-. it.. ... . r lL.vi ul ! t what numbers can atato, what lines can gnage the lengths and ' breadths : 6f 4 eternity ? ; It b htnrliftr than heaven what rnt fhnn ?a ? J' .. 1 j. , . , . . . . ' , -r er than punishment what canst thou know? Its breadth longer than ths eirthj its depth j than than that of the ea :: None can traly eay, af ter the most prodigfous waste of ages'so much of, 'eternity.' b. gone. "Tor when oillioni of centuries are elapsed, it b but " Just commen cing ; and when millions more have run their ample round, it will be no nearer ending. ; Yei when ages, numerous as the bloca, cf Sprlsj, increased by the herbage cf, summer, both aug mented by the leaves of Autumn, and all mul tiplied by the drops of rain which " drown the winter j when: theseand;icn,:thonsasd tiaea ten thousand more, more than cad' be repre sented by any similitude, or issgiscd by tsy conception when all these are revolved and finbhedEtemity will only , be ' bHsrirg I Wlit . nlearanir. vet awfnl tlinfrtit 1 'Fullpf;deli2ht,asdifall cf.foiU. 14fltj"il alarm our fears quicken our hopes, and ani znate all our endeavors.-' Since we are sscs to launch into thb' endless state, let cs give all diligence to secure our entrance fcio bibs, be cause there b no alteration in the ssescs cf fu turity.' The' wheel never trims : all b ttcid fast and immovable' beyond, the tcb. The .1.... ..;;ni ;1.f n- - tt. yen ; their -harps are pcrrct:i!!j tzi:l j, the-r' .trinapht-2suftcf cs bt:rn:;t::2.. tTLsrda of the wicked b Irrersililla. Tls Lixl c:a tence esse pac2cd,'b never to Iz rc;:-.'.J? ; But all thirgs bear tie ca cl-ril s:;;t fo, Vyer5 (Now'; we turn to tia e-" -t,) . I:t' all things ipIcpdiibV-a ili.Verj".:;; tl t' :t b ambble in Vatara be' cxpur-?i, (' - 1" .t la heaven rvcr aiiit s'f""3 F" All hesven will rssoiri tt:'-!i t1 1 n:"V r" t-ci fitlUde, and all eternity re-ccls t C '; t:U
The Biblical Recorder (Raleigh, N.C.)
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June 21, 1855, edition 1
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